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Paypal Founder Thiel: If Trump Didn’t Beat ‘The Machine,’ No One Could

Charlie Kirk Staff

11/16/2024

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Paypal Founder Thiel: If Trump Didn’t Beat ‘The Machine,’ No One Could

PayPal founder Peter Thiel spoke to Bari Weiss from ‘The Free Press’  where he said if President-elect Donald Trump had not defeated “The Machine” it would have proven that the “Machine” was unstoppable.

Thiel said that the president-elect’s victory “exploded the lie of identity politics.”

“If you believe that people cannot listen to reason and it’s all subject to these subrational factors like your race or your gender or your sexual orientation or something like this, than nobody would ever be able to change their mind…You exploded the lie of identity politics,” he said.

“I don’t think there is room for individual thought left on the left… this intellectual straitjacket where you’re not allowed to have ideas, even if you agree with 80%, it’s never enough. You have to be 100%,” he added.

“2020 was the fluke. I think the Hollywood movie term is retcon — retroactive continuity. Like if a popular character dies in an avalanche, but people want him back somehow they find a way for him to survive and bring him back, so we have to tell a story of what happened in the last eight years. If Harris had one, the story would be that 2016 was a fluke, we paid for it, and liberalism is basically fine and we can go back to the somewhat braindead but comfortable Obama consensus. It seems to me the straightforward retroactively continuous story is that 2020 was the fluke. It was one last time where this ancient regime, with an ancient president, could dotter over the finish line one last time,” said Thiel.

He said that he was convinced by Elon Musk that if Democrats won it would be the end of elections in the United States.

“I didn’t want to believe Elon when he said this, so I texted him and told him I hadn’t believed you when you said this at first. I think this is because, psychologically, I don’t want to believe that. I don’t want to believe the country is so far gone that I would have to leave or something,” the PayPal founder said.

“The sense in which I felt that he was correct was if Trump, with much better substance, much better on so many things, could not win in 2024 against the machine, then the machine would always win. And if the machine always wins, than you no longer have a democracy. You certainly no longer have a democratic process within the Democratic Party. We can always debate the election shenanigans in November 2020. The far more extraordinary thing was in March of 2020 when Biden came in fourth or fifth in Iowa and New Hampshire and then somehow got rammed through South Carolina and all the other candidates drop out. There was this extremely non-democratic primary in the Democratic Party in 2020 led to an even less democratic process in which Biden was replaced with Harris,” he said.

“If the machine could defeat Trump, I thought it was reasonable that it would gain even more power and somehow be unbeatable, and the country would become like California, a one-party state,” he added.

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Charlie Kirk is the Founder and President of Turning Point USA, a national student movement dedicated to empowering young people to promote the principles of free markets and limited government.

Charlie is also the host of “The Charlie Kirk Show” podcast, which regularly ranks among the top-10 news shows on Apple podcast news charts, and is the host of the nationally syndicated daily radio show on the Salem Radio Network live from 12 - 3 PM ET.
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