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Cruz Says Carlson ‘Bat Crap Crazy,’ ‘Unhinged’ Following Wild Interview

Charlie Kirk Staff

06/19/2025

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Cruz Says Carlson ‘Bat Crap Crazy,’ ‘Unhinged’ Following Wild Interview

Texas Republican Sen. Ted Cruz had some choice words for former Fox News host Tucker Carlson after a contentious interview between the two went awry.

The senator was interviewed by Ben Ferguson after his confrontation with Carlson and he shredded him.

“I spent two hours in my office first thing this morning doing an interview with Tucker Carlson, now you and I both know Tucker well, we like Tucker. I agree with Tucker on 80% of the issues. I think he’s been fantastic on a ton of issues,” the senator said.

“He’s been fantastic on securing the border. He’s been fantastic on standing up to COVID lockdowns, to standing up to COVID vaccine mandates. He’s been great on free speech. He’s been great on the Second Amendment. We agree, and in fact, I will say during the idiotic COVID lockdowns, Tucker’s monologue every night on FOX was the single best thing on television, which, I told him at the time, and I agree with him,” Sen. Cruz said.

“I will say, on foreign policy, Tucker has gone bat crap crazy. He’s gone off the rails. He is suddenly a hardcore isolationist, and so he asked, he asked about a month ago, “hey, I’d like to come interview”, and I knew he was coming in to interview me, and it was not going to be pleasant. He disagrees with me on foreign policy, so we were going to have a rough and tumble fight. We agreed to this interview a month ago, and yet it ended up happening today, right when Israel and Iran are in a war. And Tucker has spent the last several days attacking Donald Trump and saying, Donald Trump …” he said before Ferguson interrupted.

“Which by the way, it was just really odd. Can we talk about that? There’s a lot of people that are shell shocked right now saying, like, what is happening? Tucker Carlson, who’s usually hanging out with Donald Trump during the campaign and up on stage, is now attacking Donald Trump. This is not what anyone was expecting,” the host said.

“Yes, he’s blasted Trump as complicit in this horrible attack, and he keeps saying World War Three is going to happen. And he’s been just over the top. And I will tell you, we sat down, we did it in my office, and it started off, look, I did not intend to get combative. But it started off with his first question, he was throwing haymakers at me, and he was coming at me, and it was a two-hour interview,” the senator said.

“The interview will come out Wednesday, at 1pm and so you can watch the whole two-hour interview. And he attacks Trump, he blasts what he calls the APAC lobby, and he spends 20 minutes focused on how he thinks the AIPAC lobby is dominating American foreign policy. And I will tell you; it gets pretty rough,” he said.

“For people that, by the way, don’t know AIPAC, can you explain what that is?” Ferguson said.

“So, AIPAC is the American Israel Political Action Committee, and it is a group of Americans who care about standing with Israel, and Tucker argued they are a foreign lobby working for the government of Israel that should register and should be prosecuted for not being registered,” Sen. Cruz said.

“And it was just unhinged. And I get like there are conspiracy sections of the internet that are worried that, like AIPAC, is running the world. It’s just not reality. And he didn’t like it when I called him out on it, and I did. He also — there’s a completely surreal portion where I pointed out that Iran is actively trying to murder Donald J. Trump has hired hitman, and he just said, “That’s not true. I’ve never heard anything about it. I don’t know anything about it”. Well, it happens to be a fact. It happens to be DOJ has indicted Iranian hitmen for trying to murder Donald Trump,” he said.

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Charlie Kirk is the Founder and President of Turning Point USA, a national student movement dedicated to empowering young people to promote the principles of free markets and limited government.

Charlie is also the host of “The Charlie Kirk Show” podcast, which regularly ranks among the top-10 news shows on Apple podcast news charts, and is the host of the nationally syndicated daily radio show on the Salem Radio Network live from 12 - 3 PM ET.
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